Ok no but what I said last week still holds – something that might be interpreted as bi!Dean happens on the show and suddenly all the haters clog the wank tag with how much it’s deluuuusional to think Dean might be bi.
It really bothers you a lot, doesn’t it, that people might be interpreting him as anything but perfectly straight? That the show started to be pretty frequent about the bi allusions?
Maybe you should start thinking about why you feel the need to defend Dean’s heterosexuality instead of blabbing on about how people “only do it to validate their ship.”
And . if Dean’s heterosexuality was as crystal clear as you apparently want it to be, it wouldn’t need any defending, surely?
How do you define ‘crystal clear’? Because this is how I define it:
The people that Dean has kissed and/or had sex with, all females:
So, the question is, why do YOU see his ‘bi-ness’ in pastry and his newfound appreciation for Taylor Swift, when his heterosexuality is staring you right in the face?
It bothers us because it’s fucking offensive to say someone is bi based on their choice of music, food, and the colors of the shirt they are wearing. That is encouraging nasty stereotypes.I KNOW why I need to defend it because idiots like you are being the homophobic parents who won’t accept their child is gay.
You…realize I’m queer right? And that I know all about nasty stereotypes and parents who don’t accept their child for their queerness…Not that it matters. At no point did I ever say any of these things you seem to think I said. Nowhere. Don’t you read the posts you shit on? Jesus.
“Dean said he was straight and queer people are never in denial about their sexuality and here’s a bunch of gifs of Dean making out with women because bisexual ppl don’t do that and how dare you take evidence of Dean rejecting the harshly ultra-macho heteronormative hunter culture he grew up in by embracing traits that were repressed (ie, taking pride in his appearance & clothing, enjoying "feminine”-coded music, etc.) as support of the reading that he’s a repressed bisexual who is slowly coming to terms with his internalized queerphobia and effemiphobia"
lmao ok
Just this part:
It bothers us because it’s fucking offensive to say someone is bi based on their choice of music, food, and the colors of the shirt they are
wearing. That is encouraging nasty stereotypes.I KNOW why I need to
defend it because idiots like you are being the homophobic parents who
won’t accept their child is gay.
You realise Dean’s a fictional construct, right? You realise fiction does not follow the same laws as the real world, and symbolism, parallels and subtext are all real, valid things that have significance in telling a story. Showing that Dean’s taste in music isn’t as rigidly defined as it once was has significance in portraying his character development, and it’s meant to have implications for other aspects of his character. The costume department and prop department choose things because of their significance and don’t just throw outfits together based on how you’re feeling that day, like people do in the real world. Symbolism is a thing. Motifs, parallels, symbols…they’re put there to represent aspects of the story that aren’t being told at a face-value level. These aren’t nasty stereotypes. They’re storytelling techniques.
Also, look at the cases where Dean says he’s straight or that he “doesn’t swing that way”. He’s on the defensive in all of them. He feels threatened or insecure and his way of taking back control of the situation is by reaffirming his masculinity, which he thinks is achieved by saying he’s straight. The macho image he’s trying to project by denying that he “swings that way” is more of a stereotype than anything else. Put him in a situation where he doesn’t feel threatened, thinks he’s in control, and then pull the rug out from under him by directly confronting the issue of his sexuality, and you get some awkward flustering and stumbling over words a la the Aaron scene. You don’t get untroubled affirmation from him that he’s straight.
Also, the comment above me? That x 100
Dean is not bisexual in canon. He’s not and I don’t like people insisting that he is because there’s a whole bunch of problems with that. But this hostility towards people who are doing nothing more than personally choosing to interpret him that way? Why do you feel so threatened by it? If he was bi, so the fuck what? It doesn’t degrade his character at all.
I have no doubt that Dean was originally intended to be written as straight, and anything people saw as hinting towards his bisexuality in
earlier seasons was just (un?)happy accident. Now, though, the writing
and production team clearly have a different view on the show. There’s
plenty of stuff they’ve retconned the original intended meaning of
(reapers, angels, heaven, hell…all sorts, really); they seem to
interpret the characters differently than the old writers did, and they’re more aware of the
fandom than ever. They know the bi!dean interpretation exists. They know
they’re fuelling it. Adam Glass’ twitter has made it quite plain he’s aware of people interpreting Dean as bi, and it’s evident in his writing (and some of the other writers’) that he’s pandering to it. That has problems in itself if he’s not taking it seriously and just wants to cash in on a queer audience, but the people who have that interpretation don’t deserve to be attacked.
Dean, being fictional as he is, cannot define his sexuality for himself. In fanon, people can interpret it how they like. In canon, even if he’s said he’s straight in past seasons, that’s only a statement of the show’s canon as it currently stands. It’s not a precedent for that to always be the case, and there have been cases where shows have revealed a character’s sexuality to be something other than previously presumed. The writers are the ones who get to define his canon sexuality, and their recent actions suggest to me their stance is “Fandom: you wanna interpret him as bi? Well, we’re not gonna confirm that outright, but we’ll give you plenty to work with.” Whether or not their actions are harmful in doing so, well…I think that’s a different debate, but it’s not the pro-bi!dean portion of the fandom who can be blamed for that.
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