how tumblr discourse has become a parody of itself and complete waste of everyone’s time:
normal person: “you can’t just call everything that makes you uncomfortable pedophilia? it’s really fucked up. two adults with an age gap isn’t pedophilia, neither is a 16 year old dating an 18 year old, neither is a real adult who looks at porn of cartoon characters that are canonically 17 or whatever. it just doesn’t work that way.”
some fucking asshole: “OH, SO YOU’RE SAYING YOU SUPPORT PEDOPHILES??????”
this is how every conversation about “pedophilia” goes on this site. productive conversations about this are not possible. the meanings of words don’t matter. facts don’t matter. laws don’t matter. all that matters is somebody is uncomfortable with something sexual, so they get to call everyone a pedophile. game over. congratulations guys, you cried wolf so much that now when actual potential child predators prowl this site, no one will know or care because “x user is a pedophile!!” now just means “x user probably reblogged some voltron porn”. fuck all y’all.
One of the great things about this fandom is that there’s such a wide variety of opinions and headcanons, and it’s wonderful to hear about everyone’s theories and hopes for the show. But! I thought it would be interesting to take a poll and get a general consensus on how most of the fandom stands on certain topics (and also because I’m nosy curious. :D). I think it will be enlightening to see some of the trends, and maybe some members of the fandom will also realize they aren’t alone with some of their opinions.
There are 16 questions, ranging from general questions about other characters to specific questions about the relationship between Dean and Castiel (there IS a slightly NSFW question, nothing explicit, that asks about the more “physical” nature between Dean and Cas, so please don’t take this survey if that bothers you). This survey is entirely ANONYMOUS, your information is not required. The results of the poll so far won’t be shown, but when enough people have taken the poll to be a respectable sample size, I’ll make another post showing the results.
This survey is being conducted simply for fun and for the sake of satisfying curiosity. If you want to use the results of this poll as a topic for discussions or debates, that’s wonderful and welcomed, but please don’t use this poll as an excuse to start wank or broadcast hate. I’m not trying to single out anybody by doing this – the opposite, actually, I think some people might be surprised and heartened to see how many others share their opinions. Remember, the great thing about this fandom is that, no matter what opinion everyone has about the following questions, our love for Destiel is what brings us together.
Please reblog to spread the survey so we can get a large, varied sample of responses!
Wow, you guys! Currently we already have about 650 responses. What an awesome response so far, you all rock!
A lot of people are asking when the results will be shown, so I’m thinking…tonight! I’m off to work all day for the next 8-10 hours, but when I get home, I’ll take a look at the results and share them all in a post. It’d be awesome if we could break 1,000 responses… the more people who share their opinion, the better chance we have of getting an accurate look at the fandom!
For starters, there are way too many similarities between her and Sam for them to just be two random people who met by accident. They both lost someone recently and they’re both running away and they both just happen to be staying at the same motel?
Yeah ok, so she’s staying at the motel because she apparently works at the nearby animal clinic, but as someone who’s had questionable housing situations, not many places consider a motor inn a valid living address when you’re looking for employment. Sure, she probably could’ve gotten a job at a grocery store or a gas station, but as a veterinarian? Not likely. A vet gets paid on average $85k per year and a normal orientation in a new workplace is 2 weeks to a month. You think any sane employer is just gonna sign up a lady who rolled into town and is staying at a motor inn, and might decide to just drive out of town tomorrow? I mean come on.
Also, the dog he hit couldn’t have been a gray hound or a husky or idk, a german shepherd? It had to look like Bones? It’s like Sam pulled that dog out of memory and then just gave him different coloring. And he hit this dog with a 1967 fucking steel box traveling how fast? But this miracle vet lady saved the dog and it was hopping around like 24 hours later with a little cast on its leg?
Never mind the whole thing with the picnic and Amelia sitting on a blanket which is a mirror image of Dean’s fantasy of Lisa.
Like every single part of that story seems like something Sam could’ve dreamed, including Amelia’s disapproving army father who Sam has to spend hours sucking up to.
And then, her husband just miraculously appears just as Dean has found a way to crawl back out of purgatory?
How about the fact that Sam was not actually connected to the world the entire time he was with her. Sam, who freaked the fuck out because he hit a dog, decided to just completely ignore dozens of phone calls from Kevin? Never even check his messages? Never contact any of the other hunters? Never crack a book to at least try and figure out if Dean was dead or alive? Never attempt to summon any demons or angels for questioning? This Sam?
Pls.
Sam had a mental breakdown. There was no dog. There was no Amelia. It all happened in his head. That’s my story and I’m sticking to it.
This is a really satisfying theory! And we (the viewers) would never know because Sam himself doesn’t know. This would be an incredibly cool concept to explore next season, given the fact that we know there’s going to be a “can’t hide from your past” vibe.
Oooohhhh….I just really like this a lot…..
Also, Dean has never met or even SEEN Amelia, and Sam was just completely crazy and seeing Lucifer and things that weren’t there. Cas may have fixed Sam’s wall, but it’s still covered in scars from where it originally shattered, and there’s still lingering effects, Sam is still a bit crazy with tons of PTSD and trauma, made worse when he finds out his brother (and Cas) is suddenly just GONE and he’s all alone.
The size and design of angel wings has changed several times throughout Supernatural’s 13 seasons. Most of the time these are mainly changes to the wing shadows which can easily be explained by shadows always being slightly distorted. Many things can distort the look of the wing shadows, the distance the angel is from a wall, the source of the light making the shadow, and the fact that angel’s never stand in front of a flat surface when displaying their wings. Another way that I rationalize the differences in the sizes and shapes of angel wings is that the angels are all unique individuals so it would make sense that they would come in all sorts of sizes like people.
One thing i have had trouble understanding is the anatomy of angel wings. In particular Castiel’s wings as seen in 12×23 and 13×01. This is what the bone structure looks like to me but that doesn’t really match up to the shape of the angel wing skeletons we have seen before. 12.23 suggested a similar shape to the shape seen in 13.01 but it’s really hard to see.
Here are Castiel’s wings from 10.18. Besides some differences in size they seem to look exactly the same as Gadreel’s damaged wings in 9×02, and Benjamin’s and Ishim’s damaged wings in 12.10.
So why do Castiel’s wings look so different in 12×23 and 13×01? What is exactly is going on with the bone structure of angel wings on Supernatural? This has been bothering me since May and I have a theory but it is in no way perfect. One thing to note is usually angel wing prints are painted but in 12×23, and 13×01 Cas is laying on top of sand. I think that is why the wings were added to the footage later so someone wouldn’t have to try to paint something on top of the sand. I think whoever added the wings in just happened to make them a little different, but lets give them the benefit of the doubt and try to figure this out.
This is the anatomy of a bird’s wing it is very similar to our arm. The previously seen damaged wings where we can clearly see the bones (including Castiel’s wings in 10×18) seem to match this bone structure.
Castiel’s wings in 13×01 do not match.
This has lead me to wonder if the first joint we see closest to Castiel’s body is a second shoulder. This would actually explain a lot of the anatomical problems with angel’s wings such as how high they can raise them and their shape. Which shouldn’t be possible if angel wings were exactly like a birds wings. @trisscar368Came to a very similar conclusion except that I don’t think the bone, between Castiel’s body and his humerus, is a scapula. I think it’s a coracoid. The coracoid plays a very important role in bird flight because it attaches a bird’s wings to their sternum. Similarly I am wondering if this is the bone that connects an angel’s vessel to their wings.
So if angels have a second “shoulder” just to operate their wings this would explain why Castiel doesn’t have to move when he shows off his wing shadows, why angels can raise their wings so far up when extended which would be impossible for a bird to do, and some strange things about the shape of angel wings. But how does this theory fit with what we have seen of angel wing bone structure before? It actually fits very nicely with Gadreel’s wings because you can actually see this second shoulder just behind Sam’s shoulder.
This implies that most of the time it’s hidden behind the angel’s vessel and we only see it here because of the angle. Also there is a lot about Castiel’s wings in 10.18 that suggests we may not be seeing everything. Shadows are very easy to distort which makes them pretty unreliable when trying to get a picture of anything. I made a trace of Castiel’s bone structure as seen in 10×18 and superimposed it on a scaled picture of Castiel’s wing shadows from 8×07
It didn’t really match up.
But if you think about it according to what we see in 13×01 as far as bone structure. The shape of wing shadows actually matches up a lot better.
I think part of the differences can be explained by the angel’s with damaged wings not fully bringing their wings all the way up. Maybe the fact that there is exposed bone makes this movement impossible. Also if the coracoid attaches an angel’s wings to their vessel maybe it isn’t always visible when an angel dies. I am wondering if this is the bridge between a vessel and an angel’s trueform, that the reason we didn’t see it before is because those angels like Ishim and Benjamin were not alone in their vessels. The reason the coracoid shows up on Castiel’s wings in 13×01 is because Castiel is literally more attached to his vessel seeing that it only belongs to him.
I know this theory isn’t perfect and I would love to have more input on what everyone thinks about this. I also understand that there probably wasn’t quite this much thought put into Castiel’s wings in 13×01.
I had to break this post down into parts. I don’t know how many parts but right now I am thinking about three.
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