sometimes still boggled by the fact that charlie couldn’t flirt with dude security guard because she’s gay, and so dean showed her how because he’s ???????
oftentimes when sam and dean have parallel story lines, sam’s is romantic (left) while dean’s is with men (right). i think it says a lot about the types of relationships they each crave and also dean likes dudes the end
Just gonna tack on a few more, here:
vs.
and
vs.
and (even tho Sam’s isn’t “romantic” in this one, he still matched paired with a woman, versus Dean, who gets paired a man. Again.)
vs.
Also, somehow, whenever they want to put one of them in an overtly queer situation, its virtually always Dean, whereas Sam usually gets tasked with something more ‘neutral’
Sam recognizes an ARM tattoo
vs. Dean, who checks out the guy’s NAKED GROIN for a birthmark
Here we have Sam counseling Charlie with Harry Potter lore
vs Dean, who councils her through flirting with a dude
Sam gets sent to the library for research
whereas Dean gets sent to a bar to be hit on by Aaron
Look at this extremely long string of isolated incidents.
no, not usually. If a heterosexual man wants to watch a threesome it will be m/f/f for sure. Why bother with the extra dick they don’t want to see! Why?
Okay, I’ve been debating making a post about this because my gut tells me it’s not some cryptic message about the show and is in fact just Bobo relating to an article about being a queer teen in the 90s. But… I don’t know. There are a lot of things that are pinging on my radar.
Now, I don’t think I have to remind you who on SPN was called “Huggy Bear”, but I will. It was Cas, by Dean in 5×10. Obviously at the TIME Huggy Bear was in reference to the character from Starsky and Hutch, though I’m not super familiar with the show or the character so I was never really sure why he chose to call him that.
The scene itself took place right after Crowley was introduced kissing a man.
Anyway, this article that Bobo links to is interesting in its own right and I suggest reading it. But what gets me is:
1) Dean Winchester was a teen in the 90s as well.
2) Dean Winchester referenced Huggy Bear TO Castiel
3) Huggy Bear, the band mentioned in this article has songs referencing angels as the male singer’s “boyfriend” and a whole spoken word song about “angels on a mission”
also 4) the boy that the author had a crush on in his teens was named Aaron. (coughsDeansgaything)
I don’t really want to make any assumptions and to be honest this really tells me nothing but I thought it was interesting and while I know it could be one HUGE coincidence, It’s a damn crazy one that I wanted to bring light to.
– So it could all be the same chick? Morphing into, uh, to different dream girls?
– Yeah, actually. Probably.
[4×14]
Hey, remember how Dean’s siren was a dude?
oh. my god.
i watched this episode on sunday and i just fucking realized the siren literally seduces dean through song.
In this scene in the bar, they’re testing each other on recognizing songs and naming their albums, performers, writers, etc. Dean’s totally won over by Nick when Nick knows more than dean about one of them! Like. On top of the fact that every single time, the siren is presenting the victim with a romantic/sexual version of a different relationship in his life (and we see this for BOTH existing romantic relationships AND platonic ones), and the siren says that he does it to be “in love,” not to just experience any kind of love, this just takes the fucking cake
Furthermore, if your objection to [canonizing male slash] is based on the larger critique that female pleasure should not be what guides depictions of male sexuality, I would remind you, dear reader, that male pleasure is and always has been the guiding principle in depictions of female sexuality, virtually since time immemorial. Stipulated, you don’t necessarily fix sexism by inverting it; but straight men who clutch their pearls over the prospect of female audiences usurping their sexual representations are issuing quite possibly the least self-aware complaint in the history of ever.
Canonizing slash probably will not fix male-gaze based depictions of women, or cause everything to ‘break even.’ However, I also just don’t have a lot of sympathy for people who think an injustice only is one when it is happening to them. Straight dudes don’t get to defend the constant, gratuitous parade of naked tits on Game of Thrones (aka straight male fanservice) and then turn around and balk at the idea of making Dean Winchester queer because, horror of horrors, female fanservice! That’s hypocrisy of the highest order, and in this particular arena, you can’t actually have it both ways.
So I’m currently re-watching The Benders, and I’m going to need someone who can gif to do a thing.
Because you know that scene in Kugel’s Keg, just before Sam goes outside and gets taken by the Benders? There’s this exchange:
SAM: Look, Dean, I don’t know if this is our kind of gig either.
DEAN: Yeah, you’re right. We should ask around more tomorrow.
Dean looks at Sam while he speaks, but then he shifts his gaze and winks at someone over by the pool table. Just as he steps under the “Men’s” sign.
A few seconds later he tells Sam he’s going to take a leak, and when he eventually goes outside to discover Sam has disappeared, he asks some people if they’ve been outside in the last hour or so.
HMMMMMMMMMMMMM
Ha!
I just went back to look (I can’t gif but eh, screenshots can help you for for now until someone more talented comes along :P)…
Their table is right next to the pool table manned by like 5 different burly guys all with pool cues (I have no idea what they’re playing):
This is Dean looking over his shoulder apparently at Sam while questioning him about various body-snatching monsters:
A moment later walking back towards him he looks Sam dead on and his eye line is more direct and downwards; the camera angle is slightly different to the previous screen cap so it makes the above image harder to say where Dean was looking, but this is definitely eye contact with Sam:
He looks up and away to his right/Sam’s left/the pool table, breaking the eye contact he had with Sam to look elsewhere (his eyes turn as well, so he’s not just turning his head to direct a wink at him, as he’d keep eye contact with Sam, at least so far as all my experience of winking ever goes):
And then as he keeps on moving past the camera and turning more away from Sam, he winks (wow it is impossible to get nice screenshots of him doing it. 😛 Offered for scientific purposes as comparison to the last 2 screenshots and not for the chronicles of good pictures of him):
And then we have this:
“Saw a motel…” Sam tells him and Dean says, “Woah, woah, easy, let’s have another round.”
With a return to the earlier angle where it wasn’t clear if he was looking at Sam or not:
Oh, no, wait, THIS is what he looks like looking at Sam from this angle:
And then he does the bit where he says he’s going to stay a minute longer and loses an hour.
Conclusion: Something is really fascinating off and up to Sam’s left and Dean sucks at time management.
*jumps in* Here ya go! (I have some time to kill and a new found ability to gif :D) You can definitely see the moment he looks away from Sam to something over his shoulder and winks.
I’d just like to point out that this is a John Shiban episode and he rolled with bisexual Dean more than anybody in the history of the show has ever rolled with it.
Dean Winchester in the men’s room, for an hour or so.
I love the wave of season 1 queer subtext that is happening lately
So check out the sign that was next to the darts board Dean was shooting darts at:
Thursday Night Meat Draw.
“they can’t make him be bisexual out of the blue after 11 seasons!!!!!!!!”
Well, they have a point, we don’t actually see Dean suck a dick.
We see him fondle a dude’s hip bone in the episode, though.
At length.
A dude’s hip bone. Where the penis attaches. We see that in this episode.
OH GOD I NEVER CAUGHT THAT now my life is complete
Do you know what completely blind-sided me about this glorious John Shiban masterpiece? I finally figured out why the fuck it all happens in HIBBING.
Rewatching the Supernatural pilot episode today, there’s a line that stood out to me that I’ve missed on previous viewings. When Dean is arrested in Jericho and the Sheriff is interviewing him, they have this exchange:
SHERIFF: I’m not sure you realize just how much trouble you’re in here.
DEAN: We talkin’, like, misdemeanour kind of trouble or, uh, squeal like a pig trouble?
“Squeal like a pig” is a verbatim quote from the film Deliverance, making explicit reference to male rape, which is hardly comic fare – except that Dean is smirking as he says it:
Earlier in the episode, Dean mocks the Jericho police for their lack of leads on the case, calling it “exactly the kind of crack policework I’d expect out of you guys.” Deliverance is set in the Georgia backwoods, while Jericho is in California, and as such, there’s an element of insult to the reference here: Dean is basically calling the the Sheriff a hillbilly.
But given the framing of this shot – the Sheriff looming as he pulls out a chair in the foreground, Dean small and smirking up at him from the back – it seems plausible to argue there’s another element in play here, too. Eric Kripke, the show’s creator, who wrote the pilot episode, has acknowledged that Dean was both named after and inspired by Dean Moriarty of On The Road, who was bisexual both in Kerouac’s fiction and in real life, which makes the question of Dean Winchester’s bisexuality a valid question from the off. If all Kripke – and, by extension, Dean – wanted to do with this exchange was insult the Sheriff, there are any number of other references, cinematic or otherwise, to have chosen from. Instead, we’re given this one, which arguably casts not only this exchange, but Dean’s arrest, in a different light.
Earlier, when the Jericho police confronted Dean about his fake IDs, the arresting officer asks him, “You got anything that’s real?”. To which Dean, grinning, replies: “My boobs.”
And then we get this shot, just to round it out:
Thus: in the course of his arrest, Dean makes two overtly sexual comments to male police officers in conversations that were otherwise devoid of sexual overtones, one of which feminises Dean, and the other of which references male rape, though his delivery renders the impact somewhere been banter and innuendo. We’re also shown him smiling as he’s bent over a police cruiser, the camera zooming in on his expression, and as with his subsequent interview, the framing of this shot is suggestive in its own right.
How, then, does Dean behave around women? Consider his earlier, similarly loaded exchange with Jess, which is usually taken as establishing Dean’s particular brand of straight,overt masculinity. If it’s reasonable to assume that Dean is flirting with a woman he already knows is taken, when her partner is physically present, and who he has every reason to think won’t be interested in him, then it seems just as reasonable to assume that he’s flirting with the Jericho deputy, Jaffe, who’s equally unlikely to reciprocate.
As such, it’s worth comparing the two conversations – and Dean’s reactions to them – in greater detail. Speaking to Jess, Dean says:
DEAN: Oh, I love the Smurfs. [Referring to Jess’s tight, cropped shirt.] You know, I gotta tell you. You are completely out of my brother’s league.
JESS: Just let me put something on.
DEAN: No, no, no, I wouldn’t dream of it. Seriously.
And here’s his grin as he wraps the exchange:
By comparison, here’s his exchange with Deputy Jaffe:
JAFFE: So. Fake US Marshal. Fake credit cards. You got anything that’s real?
DEAN: My boobs.
And here’s his grin as he wraps the exchange:
In each of these shots – with Jess, Jaffe and the Sheriff – we have the person Dean is addressing shadowed in the foreground. In each of these scenes, Dean makes a sexually loaded comment, then grins at the other person. And in each of these scenes, there’s a power-play going on that Dean is attempting to manipulate by making things sexual: with Jess, he’s insulting her so she’ll happily leave him alone with Sam; with Jaffe, he’s distracting the deputies from asking about his brother; and with the Sheriff, he’s maintaining an air of bravado while under arrest. Yet, thanks to heteronormativity, we only take the exchange with Jess to be representative of his actual sexual preferences – even though, in context, she’s the person least likely to act on the flirtation.
On the basis of all these things together, I’d therefore argue that Dean’s bisexuality has been implied since the pilot episode, and continues to be implied – and, at times, outright stated – for the next ten seasons. In fact, I’m almost tempted to do an entire Supernatural rewatch just to prove the point.
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