Bitch, his bisexuality can be seen from actual space.
“They’d totally stop thinking he was bi if Cas went away just like they stopped thinking he was bi when Ash was killed”
Bitch, he was bi years before Castiel was even on the show.
“It’s totally OOC for him to be bi after so long”
Bitch, what show you been watching?
IS NO ON GONNA TALK ABOUT HOW HIS SIREN IS A MAN???
(But it was representing his brother)
(But if the siren represented someone you already loved and were missing…then the one guy would get a replacement mom. Sirens are ALWAYS romantic/sexual)
But Dean canonically said that he doesn’t do shorts. Therefore, what he is wearing in those two other scenes CAN’T be shorts. You are all delusional. Dean SAID he doesn’t wear shorts and that’s fact so you are all imagining him wearing shorts. Just stop with your ‘Dean in shorts’ obsession okay just URGH!
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Delusional people seeing shorts where there are no shorts.
Why cannot Dean and shorts just be friends? Save the platonic friendship between a guy and his shorts. There is just so little of that on tv now a days.
Yeah, you can’t just suddenly say Dean likes shorts after eleven years, when he obviously never liked shorts before. It’s just not believable. Stop trying to force Dean into pants he obviously doesn’t enjoy wearing, because he said so once, as a joke, eleven years ago.
Friendly reminder you can platonically wear shorts! The sexualization of shorts may seem progressive, but can actually contribute to negative pants stereotypes!
I mean come on, people don’t say things and then realize they spoke too soon. If Dean says he doesn’t do shorts, how dare you think he discovered he actually likes shorts after trying them? People don’t claim to dislike things simply because they’re afraid of being judged. If Dean says he doesn’t like shorts, it has nothing to do with the stigma of men wearing shorts. It has nothing to do with repressed affinity for the wind in his leg hair. He clearly stated a decade ago that he doesn’t like them. He was clearly forced to wear them recently, but he absolutely did not enjoy it. It’s offensive that you people are projecting your own love for shorts upon this man who clearly ONLY likes full-length pants. It’s canon. Dean loving shorts will never happen. Get over it.
Uh, although Dean has never said in canon that he even likes full-length pants. We normally see him wear them, yes, that might be true, but he has never personally confirmed anything about his relationship with pants. It is rude of us to assume that he automatically HAS to like wearing them. Let the man live!
On the other hand, you can’t just say that Dean suddenly likes wearing shorts and completely ignore what’s canon. It’s uncharacteristic of him! Dean is a man of his word, which means that the only item of clothing he is comfortable wearing is the pink satin panties he mentioned in season 5.
YES! I just went looking through my own blog for it, and for some reason couldn’t find it (gah I know I reblobbed it back in February… but I did find it on @sandraugiga‘s blog, so here have a link or two).
So I wrote a thing (all over @elizabethrobertajonesperfectly nice post– sorry about that again) yesterday about how Chuck was both hiding AND also (consciously or not) imitating Dean. From the moment he arrived at the bunker, nearly everything he did physically could believably have been scripted for Dean, right down to his wardrobe choices. Yes, even hanging out in his boxers and the Dead Guy Robe:
I mean just look at his lil ankles! Boy ain’t wearing pants under there.
And whether Dean knows it or not, Ben Edlund did indeed state that the monogram TEP does stand for Tyrone Power. My guess is that Dean would DEFINITELY have looked through the Men of Letters records to try and figure out exactly which Dead Guy’s robe he was wearing. I mean, can you really see Dean “I’m gonna need to bathe in Purell” Winchester really just wearing the robe of some random dead dude? Not only wearing it, but kinda bonding with it? He loves that silly thing. It’s a nice robe and all, but really.
Seeing Chuck in that robe, though, was one of the major clues how just what extent Chuck was going to in his emulation of Dean. In case watching porn on Dean’s laptop, enjoying the water pressure in the shower, eating a powdered donut, taking over the kitchen, and everything else weren’t obvious enough. We all know that’s Dean’s robe. You don’t just sneak into another man’s room and commandeer his bathrobe. Especially not one that fandom identifies as “Dean’s Dead Guy Robe.” Heck, I’ve even written it into AU fanfic (yes, Project Beyonce Dean even owns the Dead Guy Robe).
And as a fan of Zorro films, trust me, Dean knows who Tyrone Power is. HE PLAYED ZORRO.
That last link there? Google “Tyrone Powers Movies” and it’s the FOURTH link, below the IMDb link and two Wikipedia links. So it’s not like it’s some obscure factoid you have to go internet spelunking in order to unearth.
So this one article of clothing that Dean seems to love originally belonged to a bisexual man. And was borrowed by openly bisexual Chuck. And is currently owned by Dean.
*stops for 10 minutes to stare at a tree and think about Dean’s Zorro fantasies in relation to the fact he probably knows that a bi guy who famously played Zorro used to wear his robe…*
The most important scene was the heartfelt conversation between Chuck and Dean in the very beginning of the episode. This is a heavily queer-coded conversation during which Chuck acknowledges that Dean has had a ‘complicated upbringing’.
Dean: Well, from where I sit, it feels like you left us and you’re trying to justify it. Chuck: I know you had a complicated upbringing, Dean, but don’t confuse me with your dad.
Dean, with tears in his eyes, listed all the ways that the world is fucked up, and told Chuck – God – that it didn’t get better. Despite promises, it never got better, for him.
Dean: People – People pray to you. People build churches for you. They fight wars in your name, and you did nothing. Chuck: You’re frustrated. I get it. […] And I saw that I needed to step away and let my baby find its way. Being overinvolved is no longer parenting. It’s enabling. Dean: But it didn’t get better. Chuck: Well, I’ve been mulling it over. And from where I sit: I think it has [gotten better].
It’s important to note here that the character of Chuck – God – is a textually queer character. Chuck is bisexual. Chuck is LGBT. The subtext to this conversation between a queer character and a character that many of us read as queer is this:
“It Gets Better“ is a queer-coded phrase. It is a phrase that every LGBT person in America recognizes. It is the slogan of a famous campaign for LGBT youth (see also video of Dan and Terry talking about their ‘complicated upbringings‘). And is not only that it’s instantly recognizable to queer people, it’s that the show itself has made a reference to the campaign before in text, in Jeremy Carver’s episode We Need to Talk About Kevin (note also the queer-coding of the episode title itself, “We need to talk about [name of son]” being a line parents say when they suspect their son might be gay):
Sam: You know, it gets better. Kevin: You know I’m not gay, right?
And let us not ignore how Kevin’s simple, no nonsense line, “You know I’m not gay, right?“ shone a light on the negative space of how Dean Winchester in the entire run of the show had never said those words.
They explicitly referenced the slogan of the campaign in this exchange. The phrase ‘it gets better’ is also attached to the queer experience in the textual canon of the show. So, the conversation between Chuck and Dean is queer-coded. It is the conversation between two queer characters. Dean was telling Chuck that as was his understanding, it was supposed to get better. He had been promised that it would get better. He, a queer person, had been promised that it would get better, and it hadn’t.
And Chuck, a queer person, told Dean that from his point of view, it had gotten better. It is better when you open your eyes, Dean.
And the fact that the character of Kevin Tran, who was killed of two seasons ago, suddenly made a reappearance for the scene immediately preceding this queer-coded conversation between God and Dean Winchester? It only serves to contextualize this scene even more securely with the LGBT campaign It Gets Better.
Kevin Tran knew that it was a phrase that was told to queer youths. Sam Winchester knew that it was a phrase told to queer youths because Kevin Told him (he might have known otherwise too, to be sure, but we explicitly know that he knows because of the scene between him and Kevin – and the re-appearance of spectral Kevin could only serve to jog his memory of this). And here, his brother is weeping before him about how it never got better.
Sam knows that Dean is queer. God knows that Dean is queer. And conversely to what a lot of the fandom seems to think, Dean Winchester knows full well that he is fucking queer.
And the audience is starting to catch up, too. Because this motherfucking reference was as subtle as a brick to the face.
I totally agree with this, but I’m fairly certain the title ‘We Need to Talk About Kevin’ was a reference to the book of the same name? Idk that just seems more obvious.
It’s a queer-coded phrase regardless. Yes, it’s likely a reference to other things, mostly likely the Rembrandt song title We Need to Talk about Kevin in addition to the film – given the history of the show using song titles as episode names.
But Dean canonically said that he doesn’t do shorts. Therefore, what he is wearing in those two other scenes CAN’T be shorts. You are all delusional. Dean SAID he doesn’t wear shorts and that’s fact so you are all imagining him wearing shorts. Just stop with your ‘Dean in shorts’ obsession okay just URGH!
😉
Delusional people seeing shorts where there are no shorts.
Why cannot Dean and shorts just be friends? Save the platonic friendship between a guy and his shorts. There is just so little of that on tv now a days.
Yeah, you can’t just suddenly say Dean likes shorts after eleven years, when he obviously never liked shorts before. It’s just not believable. Stop trying to force Dean into pants he obviously doesn’t enjoy wearing, because he said so once, as a joke, eleven years ago.
Ungh! Just stop making the show about Dean and his Shorts, when the show obviously is all about Dean and his Pants.
We see Sam sleep with a waitress, flirt with a gas station cashier, flirt with/have a crush on Eileen, have a crush on a wrestling announcer, now this…
We see Dean get a hickey of unknown origin (while walking funny afterward), get rejected for having a “dad body”, have a crush on a wrestler, and freak out about Cas.
Sam winks at female bartender, Dean winks at male bartender, it’s all good, it’s all good.
“I’m a bisexual and I don’t think dean winchester is bisexual, that’s really offensive and ignores canonical fact”
sorry i can’t really hear u over how bi dean is
I’ve been laughing at this shit all day.
I think we all need to just sit back and wait for their LGBT studies program to hit actual queer theory.
[For those that did not see the post – someone was claiming that since they are bisexual and have learnings in LGBT studies, they have authority to state that Dean Winchester is not bisexual because the character and Eric Kripke have both said so, so there.]
I am SO glad I was not the only one who saw that BS for the BS it was. It’s the same as the old “you don’t want representation, you just want your ship to be canon” just with a different wrapping.
And seriously, I have searched High and LOW in all interviews and have yet to find that Eric Kripke quote about Dean being Straight. I have found the one about him having an obsession about bromances when talking about Revolution, but nothing about Dean in specific. Except that one where he based Dean off a bisexual character on a book, based on a real person who was bisexual. But hey, that never counts.
I’ve been following Kripke’s interviews since the press junket before the finale of the show even aired and I have never heard him comment on Dean Winchester’s sexuality. He’s extremely careful not to interpret the story for people on much smaller aspects than that. He doesn’t want to interpret the story for people. And it’s ironic that they’ve taken a quote out of the context of Kripke coming to realize just how much his work carries this thematic of homoerotic subtext to misrepresent his views on Dean Winchester’s sexuality.
Kripke hasn’t really discussed On the Road since the very beginning, but he recently listed Sandman, American Gods, Good Omens and Hellblazer as his influence for the Pilot (all containing LGBT characters, and the last of which has a bisexual main character), and he did this within days of some straight Dean stans attempting to include him in their bullshit on twitter.
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