That it’s so different. That it makes such a bold statement with a slow song that’s so focused on the voice and the lyrics with next to no surrounding music. This haunting atmosphere it evokes, the sort of other-worldliness connected to it. I think it’s one of the strongest promos the show has ever done. It almost feels like the Darkness is singing that song while rolling over the world and wrapping it in chaos and smothering every other sound so that nothing except its voice is to be heard in the silence. No explosions, no fancy fighting scenes but long lingering shots allowing this feeeling to wash – like that wave – over the viewer. And I think it’s amazing. It has so much more weight this way. Yes, to me it feels like the calm within the storm. Freaking perfect!
Agree re: one of the strongest promos they’ve ever done.
It is one of the strongest promos we’ve ever seen precisely because “they” meaning the people who usually make the promos had nothing to do with it. The CW is in charge of promos that go on air. THIS was made by the postproduction staff of Supernatural. I think they were tired of terrible promos and took the initiative. And I think they’re really excited about the new season and super proud so that’s awesome too!
Never has a promo made me so excited about a season (episode – whatever). You can tell it was put together by people who put their hearts into this, who love Supernatural and can’t wait to share their hard work with the fans. God, I hope they do more of these!
“It is one of the strongest promos we’ve ever seen precisely because ‘they’ meaning the people who usually make the promos had nothing to do with it.”
Exactly!
On a semi-related side note, I increasingly have this… hunch… that there is increasingly a difference between “The Supernatural Casual Viewers Are Promised/Given” and “The Supernatural Dedicated Fans Are Promised/Given.” Casual viewers (ideally, according to the CW, young men) here being those who might see a CW promo and tune in for the first time, or who fall in and out of watching based on how good the week’s episode looks, and the CW PR is geared towards getting their eyeballs on the TV screen for ad revenue. Whereas fans (mostly women) are those of us who are really “plugged into” the fandom on the studio side, and who are analyzing this show and have favorite writers and Opinions about the set design and really follow the themes and subplots, and for the most part our eyeballs are gonna be on the screen regardless. We talked a lot last year about how freaking annoying the CW PR was, and how it alienated a lot of Supernatural’s existing fan base (remember that time they called “teenage girls” the worst monsters of all?), and I think that’s what’s happening…
I remember having this thought about a “split canon” for the first time when seeing what didn’t air (i.e., the CW) but still got included on the DVDs (i.e., a product that benefits only the studio financially – the CW doesn’t get a cut of those revenues, as far as I understand it, and same goes for licensed merch and convention fees). Like, who buys DVDs? Fans. Casual viewers don’t do that; they’ll never see any of the stuff that we saw, or listen to the audio commentaries. Who watched the part where Mark Sheppard and Bob Singer talked about Season 10? Fans. Guess who didn’t? Casual viewers. Who’s watching this new S11 promo and will be influenced by its tone as we start watching the season? Fans. It’s not airing where casual viewers will see it; only those who are already plugged into the studio side of things will see it. And casual fans who only watched the CW promo are going to have a very different set of expectations about Season 11′s tone and content – raunchier, less “creeping horror” and instead more “action! guns! women!,” etc. And there’s so much that the set designers and VFX people put into this show that casual viewers aren’t paying attention to, which never becomes part of “their” version of the show. They’re not paying attention to the allusions or the way lighting choices or the color purple have come to mean something symbolically. And there’s tons of stuff said at conventions (or, likewise, there’s meta circulating among fans that points out an allusion to other media or to another point in the show!) that becomes a paratext for how fans but not casual viewers watch the show – we’re told that things like the Collette parallel were accurate, and then we watch with that in mind, while casual viewers don’t.
Anyway. I don’t know what conclusions to draw from this observation.
Yasss! Thank you! All of this is so accurate! Never have I felt this strongly about a promo before. It’s just so damn amazing. I have lost count of how many times I’ve watched it, and I still haven’t had enough. And the song fits so well it physically hurts me! I’m so excited, I’m gonna die of feels.
This part of the trailer fascinates me, because who would Dean immediately raise a gun to whilst Sam lowers his???
This is back on my dash and I’m mostly recovered from looking at Jared’s hands here, so I’m going to muse for a minute.
Honestly, I think the only thing we can say for sure that we’re looking at is someone the boys know, who was presumed dead. Because that is the reaction they would both have – Dean: “Fuck, it’s something wearing the face of someone we love gotta kill it right now” and Sam being so stunned to see the person he thought was dead that he’s startled into lowering his gun.
Dean is the protector, the one jumping in front of any given bullet, the one who shoots first to save time and take no chances.
Sam is the negotiator (anyone remember him talking to a certain trickster in Changing Channels?), the one willing to give the person in front of them a chance no matter how badly that person has wronged him in the past.
Obviously I want it to be Gabriel. But it could be so many different people, as long as it’s someone they both knew was six feet under.
Charlie Charlie Charlie Charlie Charlie, etc. Only because I want her to tear both of them a new asshole for getting her killed.
I’d be happy if it was Gabriel, though, too.
Could be Crowley, if he’s looking particularly beat up after his encounter with Cas.
J2 come on stage, Jensen started singing with Louden Swain and at the end of the intro the boys did the synchronized jump with Rob.
“Nothing like showing up late to a party.” – Jensen
Someone yelled out “I love you” and Jensen said, “Thanks mom!”
Jared asks Jensen: “Which season was your favorite Sam hairstyle?” Jensen: “What season did you start Gilmore Girls? That one.”
Jensen asks Jared “What season of spn did you like Dean’s hair the most?” Jared said the one where Jensen played Dean Smith.
What moment would they pick in the show to change the course of the story? Jared: Not holding my wife for Jensen to kill.
Jensen enjoyed the purgatory story line; jokes about the Dean Winchester Chronicles if Dean had never asked Sam to look for dad.
Jared laid his head on Jensen’s shoulder.
A fan asking a question and thanking them for the Always Keep Fighting campaign is nervous and Jared tells her we are all family and trying to calm her down.
They both got down to hug the girl. Jared talks to her and holds her hand.
If you make fun of Jared’s “y’all” he’ll come back with a horrible Minnesota accent lol.
Jared: Fight scenes are equal parts fun and hard.
In the Baby ep there’s a fight scene that involves three people in the backseat of the Impala.
Jensen: We just filmed a fight scene in Baby’s back seat. No, a FIGHT scene! Jared: (Grr noise)
Jared asked for a cup before the fight with Hansel and Gretel because he could tell he was gonna get hurt.
Jared and Jensen had a dinner date with their wives and Jared had food on his face and Jensen was the closest to him so Jensen wiped it off Jared’s face.
J2: There’s a special relationship when you see someone more than your wife. Jensen: The odds are against people getting along like this.
Jared talks about the SPNFamily.
Regarding the 200th ep, Sam and Dean being good singers would be contrary to the show. Jensen sang very briefly.
Jared said he watched the Saved by the Bell movie and Jensen scooted his chair away and Jared scooted to move closer to him.
Jensen asks Jared which girl on Saved by the Bell he liked. Then answered his own question by saying Jared was a Slater guy.
Jared’s 900 number would be TallPolack.com
Jared would like to have been in The Departed. Jensen would remake The Neverending Story and play Atreyu.
Both boys would rather be leader of hell instead of follower of heaven. Because you close up shop.
Who do they like to work with besides each other? Jared had a lot of fun working with Mitch and Jim. Jensen says Misha, then says, “I’m just kidding. Old lippy over there? Nooo.”
Jensen also says, “Ruby, just because he forgot to mention her, so I will.” They also bring up Jeffrey Dean Morgan and the character Benny.
Jensen on Jared: There’s an ease and comfortability working with him we don’t have otherwise.
J2 tease each other.
Asked what made them fall in love with their wives. Jared: Gen was and is my rock. Jensen jokes that Danneel showed up.
A girl told J2 they helped her with AKF and they hugged her and Jensen said, “No one gets to bully her not when we’re around.”
The boys start playing with the screen delay. Jensen: This is why they still call us the boys ha
Fan: We love pics of Jensen and Misha’s boat ride. Jared jokes: They haven’t released the nudes. Jensen says Misha apparently didn’t know how to start the boat so Jensen started it lol.
J2 are holding their lips and imitating Misha’s fat lip.
J2 on working together: There’s an ease to working together with someone so long. You trust your partner.
Fav line character has said? Jared: I lost my shoe or a scene from Bad Day At Black Rock. Jensen: From the Baby ep. Jensen improved a line in the backseat Impala scene in one of the takes. He hopes that it’s used: “Get outta my car.”
Question about voice over work, J2 talk about how different it is.
Jared: “After Richard directs, we’re going to have a long list of pranks that happened.”
Richard and Rob come on stage. Richard: “I was so looking forward to directing. Until right now.”
Jared said there probably will never be a day Supernatural will go on without Misha Collins.
It’s this one here, it’s such a crack-up. The phrasing is better than I could have ever imagined:
The cast and crew have promised fans of an explosive ‘Supernatural’ season 11. While the Winchester boys reunion are expected, Cas and Dean will get back together and together find an answer to the mistake they made before.
I’m just so relieved they’re back together. Who’d have thought their relationship could be re-built after such a rough break-up?? Truly an incredible romance!
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