exorcisingemily:

allthebeautifulthings9828:

clusterjam:

allthebeautifulthings9828:

Here’s the thing about the Supernatural “fan movie”. They shot themselves in the foot by having a fan unjustly banned from a con and and then blocking hundreds of fans who said no, this is wrong (Clif, his wife at the time, Mitch, etc., all went on blocking sprees). We’re not going to support a film whose creators treat us that way. Also, putting people in the film who are notorious for bullying, threatening, cajoling fans and being nasty to actors while gossiping about families and secret gay marriages is not a good tone (Kelios, anyone?). They’re also working with WinchesterBros, owned and operated by similar people associated with Kelios who routinely exclude actors and fans they don’t like while claiming to be an all-inclusive fan site. Lastly, the amount of money they want us to donate is more than renting a feature on iTunes. It seems grabby. So if they’re noticing the lack of immediate support, maybe they should ask themselves why. I’ll just be over here not watching the movie like a bad fan.

Everything about this is great and I’d like to add that during the making of the film, one of the creators tweeted about needing more “vagina” in the movie in regards to needing more female actresses. Which 1) not everyone with a vagina is a woman and vice versa and 2) Just??? call??? them??? women??? why must you refer to them as vaginas????

and then proceeded to not apologize and block people who called them out on it. Now they’re mad that those same people aren’t going to support them when they never even asked for the movie to be made?

okay buddes.

Reblogging for the addition.

While I’ve never hidden what happened at ChiCon (not that I really could with how quickly it blew up in fandom), I haven’t exactly outlined the aftermath of that event and the repercussions that it had for me  in my online life and, more importantly, in my real life.

As the documentary has been gaining more and more buzz in the fandom, my name is dropped in answer to Clif’s involvement nearly every time. I understand this association between my name and Clif’s, and I have come to terms with it.  However, I have other grounds for concerns with the documentary. In the interests of transparency and clarity:

That Clif factor is obvious. Clif had me photographed, publicly humiliated, and escorted out of Chicon as a “threat” based on a single out-of-context screencap of me bantering with a friend about my supposed “evil” ways, as regards to the gift basket project and what was supposedly a conspiracy of bunnies (Yes that was a ‘concern.’ I was apparently going to infect the cast with Destilence using adorable plush bunnies. No, it’s just as ridiculous as it sounds, which is why I was laughing at it with a friend in the first place).

After that, he tweeted that single screencap to over 80K followers as his justification for having me banned from all future Creation events. Creation later overturned that decision: I have since attended Fri/Saturday at HoustonCon on my own dime, and all four days of VegasCon as Creation’s apology for their part in the events of ChiCon. However, afterwards Clif’s only comment to me (through my editor) was that he didn’t regret it and would do it again, prior to blocking me and anyone who spoke up asking him to retract the accusation. I actually believe he means this: at VegasCon, long after it was proved I had no ill will towards Jared, Jensen, or anyone in SPN, this was my view during the J2 Gold Panel, as Clif planted himself between me and the stage.

As a result of Clif’s actions at ChiCon, I was doxxed. My mother (also in fandom, and protectively outspoken after ChiCon) was doxxed. This means our information was put out there publicly on SPN Gossip and in other places, ensuring that even as I was targeted online, I was not safe offline. Worst of all, my children were threatened in all of this.

Because of how public my removal and his ‘evidence’ against me were, it went into online news articles and made it common knowledge to everyone I know in real life/offline. This led to my ex-husband, with whom I attempt to maintain little contact, collecting these articles and posts detailing the aftermath and legally challenging if my children were “endangered” by the Supernatural fandom and if I needed to relinquish custody. Thankfully that was disregarded, but it still posed a significant real-life scare, as did having to explain Supernatural fanwank to my full-time employers to be able to keep my professional career and to prove I don’t engage in threatening behavior.  

So the Clif aspect of why I will not be investing in this documentary… that’s obvious.

Not as widely publicized but similarly documented are my interactions with NotTheRibbons/Vinnie and KentuckyBecky, of Winchester Bros, who are part of the team behind the documentary.

I know it circulated in fandom that Vinnie dubbed Destiel fans the “Ebola” of the SPN fandom, but that was long after she and I spent months on Twitter as mutual followers debating the finer points of fandom. She went on to inform me that people who like Castiel as their favorite are “disrespecting” Supernatural by focusing on the “wrong thing,” and therefore deserve no respect.

That’s not second-hand. She said these things to me in public Twitter conversation after telling others she could understand if you loved one Winchester brother or the other, but watching any other way was wrong. Outside of our multiple interactions where she was flagrantly adversarial prior to our mutual block, there are the myriad snide comments about fans of my opinion that are common on her timeline.  There are also her remarks on podcasts, including the circulated remarks on Felicia’s acting ability and how Charlie needed to die (and later celebration of that death).

Becky, while not as flagrantly offensive as Vinnie, is by no means blameless in the growing reputation of Winchester Bros as a biased and exclusionary website. When the fandom was discussing their refusal to post Misha’s People’s Choice Award to their website, Becky approached me publicly to say it was her call not to post it, and that she will not: because she found Misha’s fandom annoying for asking her to post it when, after an extended period, they still had not acknowledged it on their purportedly inclusive fansite. Even she acknowledged that it was petty, but so far as I can tell she has no intention to change that. Additionally, they’ve refused to signal boost for Misha’s charity, citing fairness, but do so for Jared’s.

Both Vinnie and Becky will tell you, proudly, that questioning the actions of their site makes no difference whatsoever and that they are above reproof, citing their follower count on Twitter and Facebook and the number of listeners to their podcasts.

And they’re right. Winchester Bros has a large following in fandom. They are welcome to try and drum up funding from it.

They’re not going to be getting it from me.

I’m absolutely certain there are also great people behind this documentary, not just these individuals. It has interviews from cast members whom I admire. There are even fans behind the scenes or in the interviews who are pretty cool, too.

But ultimately, I see this as a vanity project for Clif, Vinnie, et al, and Two Sharks Media twitter confirmed that this is first and foremost Clif’s movie, and the others just helped make it happen. The documentary is also being used as a platform by some of the most hurtful, hateful fans online to prove that they are the “true” fans of Supernatural and deserving of the spotlight given to them by Clif deciding to interview them as representative of our fandom.

I see this project as over-priced, under-thought, poorly marketed, and ultimately a nostalgic and one-sided fluff piece that will further divide the fandom, all while padding the resumes and the wallets of people I believe are exploiting the Supernatural fandom’s enthusiasm for their own gain.